This is Hacker Public Radio Episode 3,613 for Wednesday the 8th of June 2022. Today's show is entitled, Man-Buy's Cheap at a Rondack Chair. It is hosted by DNT and is about 8 minutes long. It carries a clean flag. The submarine is an anecdote about buying a cheap long chair and trying to get a part replaced. Hi, this is DNT with another episode of Hacker Public Radio that nobody asked for. Here I want to just tell you about something that happened in the past week or so that sort of gave me pause and I think maybe it's interesting to just tell you what happened. I purchased from one of the hardware stores here in the US chair that's called an adirondack chair. It's a popular style of chair, it's got like a kind of lean back, a little bit, it's pretty comfortable and according to the Wikipedia article on Adirondack chairs, it was popular in an area of New York state called Adirondack Mountains, I think, where there were some of those places where people would go to rehab from tuberculosis and one of the things they liked about it was that the arms of this chair were such that it would kind of help you open up your chest a little bit. So I guess that means it's good for COVID times as well. So I ordered this unfinished adirondack chair and it was damaged one piece of it was damaged. So I used to work at this hardware store actually a couple of years ago and I remember that when that happens one of the things that we would often do is if a customer could just bring back the one part that was missing and we might open another box in the store and just get the one part they need so that they're on that way. And then we would just put a sticker on this box with the damaged part that we put back in or maybe we didn't maybe we just threw the damaged part away and in the end because this product came from what they call a private brand which just means a brand that's owned by the hardware store that means the store would just get credited for the damaged product. So the whole product would just end up in the dumpster and the store wouldn't lose any money with it because essentially it was its own money at the end of the day. So hoping to avoid that I to avoid the whole product ending up in the end of the bin. I called them up well actually the box comes with a sheet of paper that asks you not to go to the store and return the item if it's damaged to an instant call this number. You call this number and they say oh yeah sure well the first thing they do is they kind of suggest you instead take it to the store and I'm not sure why they do that but they say that you know you will get the issue resolved much faster if you just take it to the store and get a replace there if there is stock at the store but there is the option also to contact the manufacturer and the manufacturer can send you just the part that was damaged. So I thought well that sounds good I would be willing to wait a little longer if this whole thing just generates less waste. So I took they said 7 to 10 days before the manufacturer would send me the replacement of the part and then okay no problem I went on about my life and I kept getting emails something like every two days and email came from from the customer service person telling me that oh you know they still haven't responded to my email to them then being the manufacturer of the product so you know and kind of like nudging me to ask me if I want instead to just go to the store and swap it out there and I just kept going like well I mean you know they said 7 to 10 days and I was kind of wanting to say well you know do you want me to take it to the store because if you do just say so and so anyway in the end yeah they sent me another email after I think it had been one week since my first contact with them and saying again oh they haven't responded I just want to check that you haven't returned it at the store and yet the the whole time for me the question is like well do you think they might never respond is this why you keep pursuing this even though I already said that I would wait so then yeah I typed down I'm a response saying like well you know we already knew from the beginning that it was going to be faster to take it to the store so nothing's new with that and I basically meant to ask look like if it's easier for you if I just go to the store sure just say so and then before I finished typing in I thought well you know one the damage is really quite simple and I could probably just you know clamp the piece back together and just drill a hole and put in a long dowel rod with some glue and it's probably going to be stronger than ever would be otherwise and so so I decided oh you know I'm just gonna I'm gonna try to do that see how it goes and if it goes well I'll just I'll just reply and say you know I forget it I fixed the part just just let it go but then of course before that could happen I did get a response from the manufacturer and then guess what the manufacturer is a company in Vietnam and they had put the part in the mail with FedEx this one ridiculous piece of wood was being shipped from Vietnam to the United States because the part that came in the box was split so am I crazy to think that this is pretty insane and it's probably absolutely normal this probably how it is every time you return something or need to get a replacement part I guess yeah I just think I don't know something's very strange with all that really makes you think whether you should buy this kind of thing like whether you whether anyone should buy an $80 at a wrong back chair from one of these big hardware stores anyway I just thought I could share this story and you know maybe it's not of interest to hackers but I wonder what hackers might think about it so thanks for listening and tune in tomorrow for another episode of hacker public radio bye bye you have been listening to hacker public radio as hacker public radio does work today's show was contributed by a HBR this night like yourself if you ever thought of a coin podcast you click on our contribute link to find out how easy it means hosting price VR has been kindly provided by an onsthost.com internet archive and our synced.net on the satellite stages they show is released on their creative comments attribution for going to international license.