This is hacker public radio episode 3336 for Monday, the 17th of May 2021. To its show is entitled, HPR 2020, 2021 New Year's Eve show episode 1. It is hosted by Hunky Magu and is about 100 for minutes long and carries an explicit flag. The summary is, the HPR community, stops by for a chat. This episode of HPR is brought to you by AnanasToast.com. Get 15% discount on all shared hosting with the offer code HPR15 that's HPR15. Better web hosting that's Aniston Fair at AnanasToast.com. Good morning, you've been a good morning sir. How are you? I am a live and clicking. Just more than could be said for a lot of people I guess. How are you keeping all healthy? Yeah, I'm pretty good. You guys? Yeah, my life is responsible for some care homes. Yesterday there were six and full luck to contamination mode this morning, they're 10. It's not good. Hopefully nobody's too sick yet. I was good. Now have you been on full luck that we're on well, the Dutch definition of full luck to which is you can still go out and stuff. But their shops are just except for food essential products. Alright, all the shops are shut down. Yep. We had that for a little while and they slowly kind of reopen the lot of stuff back up. Yeah, we had that at the beginning of the year and then it was open and then it went there around the Christmas. We celebrate the kids Christmas around the fifth of December and then there was a lot of spreading events as a result of that. I'm the fact that it's winter and more people are traveling and more people are inside and also the fact that people are sick to death or especially sick of being in the house. So there's not as much compliance as there was in the first lockdown. But there you go. I think it's going to get pretty bad here in the new year before it gets worse. Oh yeah, before it gets better. How are people coming along with it though? I mean, one of the things that we've noticed is that I've known people to get it and then a lot of people there seems to be in the larger number of people who are kind of asymptomatic right now as opposed to at first when I feel like a lot of the people who were more susceptible to it already got it. I don't know. I feel like a lot of people who are getting it now are able to shed it a lot faster than a lot of people who got it at the beginning or at least it doesn't seem as human gloom as it did the beginning. I think that's actually just a matter of a few weeks. We might change our ideas that by brother and those parents are both not doing well. I'll try to survive in the first one, yeah. Really, they had gotten it and then they've gotten it earlier and then then they got it not to avoid it before. Oh, okay. This new string coming out of the UK is not blaming the UK or anything, at least they identified it. It seems to be a lot more the chances of contagion seems to be a lot higher, particularly in kids under 50. You call them kids under 50? Kids under 15, one five. Okay. Okay. But yeah, get off my lawn, you kids. Oh, it's early. So what time is it there? 443 in the morning. What the hell are you doing up? I'm starting this. Very good, very good. I still have to work today, so I'll be doing a bit of that. I tried to take the occasion between Christmas and New Year's and the way that Christmas fell this year. I had Saturday as my day off, so my whole week restarted. I have another three more days of vacations over this. 14 minutes left. Have you been working on a motor and all of this? Yep. And your kids have all been scoring from home? On the initial lockdown, yes, along with my phone. And then they went back to school during the summer and just before Christmas there were schools of all social. I also thought they say about this new virus is true. I don't our new variant. I don't think they'll be going back until the vaccination programs have rolled out. My daughter finished off last year, last semester, working remote. And then she started off this year actually going and then before winter break, they had them go remote the last week before winter break. And apparently going they're supposed to with the next week on Monday. They're supposed to go back to going into school. And we just got we've just found out the other day that they're going to be remote for that first week and maybe more after that. Yeah, my daughter was on, so the secondary schools were like full black one school had this where the kids just walked into their room, stayed in the room and the teachers moved around. The other school, the kids moved around, like there was no change. And then my daughter's in third level, so she has two days a week remote one day in school. They have an ex-charge and a whole church that used to be part of the thing. So the class is able to fit in there and we get lectures there. And then she has some homework experience to still go to head. Yeah, I kind of feel like that idea where they just keep them in the one classroom and then they kind of rotate the teachers around kind of seems it seems like a good idea. I mean everything that was explained to me that they basically eat their lunch with their desk and stuff like that. They do my daughter do like a little bit of recess and stuff but there wasn't much actual interaction but she got my daughter's eight years old. She's just in third grade she actually kind of needs that human interaction you know what I mean? Yeah exactly yeah exactly but it's it's kind of weird the way they weird the way that in some countries the like pods of four or five kids and that's the only kids they're allowed to socialize with. I think they're doing that in Ireland as well. But you also don't see the numbers necessarily going up or down. Yeah it's going as I say it's going to be a statistician's playground now with all the numbers for this. Yeah what seems to work in one country doesn't necessarily seem to work in another it's kind of weird. So this year we're going to be talking about COVID instead of guns and what do we normally talk about in the history of shit? Guns food. Guns and beer. Yeah good old 51 50 million rest in pieces. Yeah it's kind of weird it's it's such a weird thing that you know I don't feel a lot of people grasp news not in this country that this is a worldwide thing that's going on it's not something that's centralized just to you know their state region you know town whatever it's this this is a worldwide thing that's going on and everybody is going through it. Yeah absolutely you know just we stand down. But is this highlighted to me a lot of just things that I would have assumed were part of the general knowledge of of of of a nation particularly with yeah for example people's inability to interpret a bell curve that has amazed me people the people's lack of understanding in how vaccines work even not the broadest sense that yeah even if you get vaccinated you're still going to be carrying around the virus to other people so you know it's not a free for all for you just simple simple things that seem logical to me seem to and they're good and they're just you know deniers like a struggle with that struggle with that. Do you get that in your country? Oh yeah yeah and and it's not it's it's not us. I would have expected that to be you know limited to stupid Americans? No no no no no that's all no no no no no no no if there are two people who you know the they okay we have got they we've got the conspiracy theorists but there one I'm seeing now is just people are are not bothering because it's affecting their life you know I couldn't be asked to wear a mask and the rest ones are of short, so it's upsetting me. I need to go to my restaurant and I need to go my ski vacation and I need to do this, you know, the selfishness of the thing. All these people, you know, but you see all these people who are in the homes, taking care of people, in the ICU's, people who are coming out of retirement goal into the health care and then people are clapping and yet at the same time, now they're complaining that they have to stay home and all well, you can let your kids go to a party because what does it better? It's just very frustrating, that they... Yeah. That's it. Yep. I feel kind of stupid with my comment earlier. And it's really not, it's, it hasn't changed the amount of people, the type of people that it's hitting, it's just, it's, I'm noticing a lot, maybe I'm just noticing a lot more younger people getting it than I was or, I don't know, it's too early. Well, yeah, exactly, but it seems to be affecting younger people a lot more as well. Well, yeah, I thought, and also the treatments are a lot better, you know, the people are not spending our getting out of ICU's and stuff, which means they're not dying, so they're not freeing up beds, which is a good thing, but also put more stress on the health care system. Yeah, I think I'm seeing a lot more younger people getting it now, you know, and then I, but that's just the people who I am involved with or know or something, I don't know, it was a stupid comment and it's way too early. Because then when I think about it, I have, I know that other people on discord yesterday, you know, flying rich. Yep. On the Pine nuts discord, I, door had made some mention that flying rich was actually in the hospital with a, oh, that's not good. Yeah, and, you know, at first, you know, it said in the hospital, and then I read further and it said, well, he said that he had gotten it, but in the hospital with it, and in the hospital, that's, that's not, because he's a relatively healthy individual, that's, that's really not good. No, that's a good, I'm going to grab a coffee before we start. You do the intro, yeah? Sure, good morning. Good morning. See you minutes. Okay, on the main HCR website, I'll put a link to, way to capture the streams. Okay, to record how to record the show. Yeah, I think Kevin is going to do a recording off the stream, since I'm going to be home pretty much posted today. I think I was just going to, send a alarm on my watch, but I read three hour, four hours or so, and stop and start the recording. I had pretty, start the recording. I had pretty good luck with my recording last year. So I'm recording you with the E-pop time in there as well. Okay, one minute, 30 seconds. One bad thing about ether pad is, if you don't have the exact name of the pad, it'll just create a new pad. Like if I had the HPR one, but it was like not catalyzed in the right spot, it would just create a new one, but instead of just telling me like, this one doesn't exist. Which if you're looking for one individual one, and it's very frustrating. Luckily, there is a admin plugin that you can put in the to manage pads, but it's not there about defaults. You need to pad at such a fantastic tool too. You ready? Hi, everybody, welcome to Hacker Public Videos. In 9th annual 26 hour, you years each show. 20, 20 is over. Welcome, 2021 in dear E-D-E-Matty. At least some people can better start from 2020, be it over. Joining me today, are is. Oh, how can we go? Hi, how are you doing? I thought you were going to be doing the intro, but then the show's switched over. So did I, well, let me do the jump right up there. You go ahead ahead, oh my God, what you're doing great. No, no, no, no, let's, let's restart. Let me start. Well, too bad, my recording has already been going for a little while, so we already restarted. Too late, so you don't have to do it next year. Nah, all right, and what is the sort of, it's just there to save with this is the night thing, you will, uh, Hacker Public Radio New Year's Eve show, where people can come on, uh, say hello, you know, ring in the new year, talk to other, like minded Hacker Public Radio people, I don't know. Other Hacker's, I don't know, it's something I enjoy doing because it gives people a chance to come on and talk about Hacker, type of things, things that are normally discussed in Hacker Public Radio, and just have a good time. I mean, a lot of times I get on to hearing those people I don't normally talk like you. This is about the only chance I get really good to talk to you, but that except for the remale. Yeah, true enough, actually. I'm officially at work now. So I'm going to have to keep it very technical today, but this time it's trading. Yeah, but I do like, I don't like the anything of this is very stressful. But yeah, thankfully you're doing that. So I don't need to worry. But he's as long- as the the audio files want to play nice and I don't mind doing the other thing. Yes, if we can, it also helps that you keep the shunnels so the zeta pad along with the shell. If you go to the Hacker Public Radio website, it's all explained there. And yeah, links and stuff, it just makes life a lot easier. And then hopefully, be good. Yep, last year Kevin did some of the editing and we really didn't do much by way of the show notes for the New Year's Pass. I've sat down and re-listened to absolutely, I get everything, you know, edited up finally. And then I sit down and re-listen everything, which is kind of fun on its own, which means that it doesn't necessarily get out as quickly. I want to say the earth past it's been like June July before I fully get it out. But fine with that. But it gives me a chance to sit down and fully listen to all of it. But there's been times where I've sat down and listened to it in the purpose of maybe pulling some links for show notes and I've been in situations where I couldn't write down links and show notes, then I had to go back and re-listen to it afterwards, but you know, yeah, yeah. It's kind of like I just recently re-listened to the previous series ones. And I mean, there were parts of there at the end that didn't catch from before just because of the way that the, so there were some problem with the Truncate Silence and the one that got uploaded. And so it kind of screwed a lot of things up, but my version had a Truncate Silence that was and surprisingly still a little bit rough, but I was able to listen to all of it. Like Polki's audio at the end of the show there was getting kind of, it almost seemed like it was chopping off his first word of everything that he was saying. Yeah, but hopefully 2021 is going to be a better year, but you know, 2019 was in a fantastic year, 2022. 2020 wasn't a fantastic year, so you know, figures crossed and all that. Well, actually, I think for a worldwide pandemic, the COVID virus could have been a lot worse. I mean, it could have been a bowl of, and that would have been a different, different bowl of fish to be brutally honest with you. Wow, yeah, it could always be worse. Yeah, that's not to minimize this or anything. So, oh, God, no. No, it's not the world trade, or the world trade, or the world health, the organization says, you know, FII, this isn't the big one. When we spoke about the big one before, this isn't it. So, I think people hopefully, it'll be an eye-opener for people. For one thing, it's meant things like remote working and, you know, that we need, you need to physically move the atoms that compose yourself to a location, to be online, seems a little bit silly. You know, all the arguments that I've heard for not being able to work from home or work remotely seem to have come out to window. Well, that those arguments were mostly by like people's employers. You don't think that that was an idea. Well, yep. How are you doing along with working remotely? Yeah, it's pretty much the same as if I went into work and plugged in because the teams work with their remote, anyway, only ever met them in person, a few of them in person. So, start more or less every day, turn it luck with a stand-up. Some of the teams have always what they do is they have TV, they have offices and then they had a big TV at the end of one of the of both office locations and then they have a constant Google meet-up going and if you want to sort of the teams then go for coffee at the same time, you know, even though one is in the Netherlands and one is in Poland and you can walk over to the wall and then ask a question of your colleagues over there or, you know, the, yeah, short arc or whatever tools you happen to be using. So, basically to me, the work didn't change as much. What did change was the interactions with the people that, yeah, I missed that more than I thought it would to be. All right, one second, Holland. What's happening here? Happy new year. Happy new year. What are you doing up this hour of the morning? Oh, we, we make our stay in bed until five. She's probably been up since about like four. Silly girl. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was, I was corrected. She's been up since four 15. What time is she good to bed? Uh, run eight. Very good. Very good. So you have a television with a team's thing set up at the end of the hallway? Yeah, so like they, um, there's this, uh, they, at the, in the office themselves, in the offices where the teams are working. So you're working on project acts here and one person is in one country, they're the person's in the other country. So you have three different offices. So what they do is they put on a, like a large monitor TV, because we work in the TV industry. So we've got TVs. And you who go up like external mic and HDMI, uh, HDMI camera, um, like a conference call microphone, a good quality microphone. And then put on teams are put on whatever your, um, whatever your video conferencing app of choices. So there, there's the camera in their office pointing, uh, pointing at them. This camera in your office pointing at you. And you're just there working. So it's like, is if you're all in the one office. It's a, oh, a video conferencing. I didn't realize that. Yeah. Wow. That's, that's kind of crazy. Well, not really when you think about it, it's just a video conference. It's going on all the time. Fair enough. Uh, it's for me, when this, when that, uh, when they sent them home, when everybody had to work from home, they, uh, the consulting company, they sent them all a iPad. And the purpose of the iPad, or our tablet of some sort. And the purpose of the tablet was just to be, that's your video conferencing thing you're there. And then they have a like a one big meeting that everybody's in just on the wall. So you got one screen just for that, where you can see everybody else. And it's pointing at you. That's all. That's a, that's not a screen, but that's going to say, it's not, that's not running all day long. Is it? Yep. Yep. There's, if somebody watching you while you work all day long, or everybody else's your choice, you don't have to put it on, but it's there. Oh, okay. And to be honest, you, it's, while it seems pretty at first, if it's your choice, then it actually does aid in the camaraderie. You know, it gives you an office feel. Right. Yeah. I know that there's some people who apparently had to be like monitored during all of it. You know, the whole time they were remote, there was somebody basically sitting there watching them and they had to be much of their recorded or what, but that sounds a little nicer, especially if it's your choice, besides the one, you know, you said there was like, well, once a week, there was like a meeting where everyone's supposed to get together. Yeah, I've seen some, some reports of tools that monitor the amount of activity, what websites they're going to, how long are you clicking, how much you're doing, and in each of the word documents and all sorts. So, it's a bit weird. But that seems like a better compromise to me. You have control, you can always just, you know, turn off the thing to your choice, but yeah, well, you put it on your mouth. Right. So, Brexit's just going to hit apparently. I thought already when I had, yeah, as of, no, it starts tomorrow. Oh, they had a year, a year's great. So, I don't know as much about it mostly because I don't, you know, I don't, um, I don't love it in the, in the UK. So, I don't follow what, as closely, I just have a kind of general knowledge. But so, the big, the big thing is that they're leaving the European Union, right? Yeah, they left the, they left the EU last year, and then they had a year where they agreed to a transition of one year, where the both sides agreed that the same rules would apply, and then that gave them a year to come up with a deal. And then the deal, if they failed to have a deal, they would resort to World Trade Organization rules, which means tariffs on tariffs and goods coming in and out of countries. So, they covered, happened, and people stopped caring, basically. And yeah, on the continent of Europe, a lot of, a lot of the concerns that I had, and I think a lot of people had was the situation in Northern Ireland. But I think we need to now welcome in, Chapman Islands in New Zealand, who only enough have a 10-15 welcoming. Oh, I did. So, then there was a big, who how about they have a deal with Northern Ireland, because it's a continuous border, the 300 kilometers of a border, with multiple border crossings. And in fact, there are roads that form. So, if you're on the left side of the road, here in one country, if you're on the right hand side, you're in another country. So, that's interesting. And since the peace process has been doing an awful lot to try and integrate, they vary a different communities and make it seamless so that there is a seamless border, even the signs and stuff don't, you would need to be fairly far into each jurisdiction before you start seeing the signs of the jurisdiction you're in, in order to de-escalate potential locations of conflict. So, the truth that happened was agreed to in the good Friday agreement, kind of basically was based on the fact that the UK and the Republic of Ireland are in the same customs union. So, in essence, it didn't really matter what, you know, what communities that you felt more affinity to, you are all in tons of purposes. You could still get in your airplane and go somewhere else and benefit from the shared island approach or the shared economy. But then Brexit came and suddenly the UK is no longer in the EU and there are a third country. So, that raises very legitimate questions for the unionist community in the north and also makes a lot of the nationalist community very worried because the status quo has brought a lot of peace and prosperity. So, the agreement then was to allow Northern Ireland to be part of the European Union while still being part of the United Kingdom. How that's going to be implemented in practice is anyone's guess but that essentially means there's a economic border around the island of Ireland and I can see that that would be very troubling for a lot of the unionists in Northern Ireland. Let's see that as a and with justification, a separation from the union that they have a desire to continue to be part of. Don't know if I said that as well, that's where it's sense. And then the rest of the UK basically just abandoned, they Scotland don't want to be there. There are the significant majority in Scotland that don't want to be leaving the EU either and there's talk of if you listen to the Scottish Nationalists, they wish to have another referendum and they had a referendum a few years ago and one of the main reasons they believe they lost the referendum was because the voters wanted to remain in the European Union and now that they have left the European Union they feel that they should have another chance as getting their own sovereignty back because they've always been an independent country and then they would apply to join the European Union themselves. So yes, Brexit explained. I'm confused as to what the upside to not being part of the European Union would be. No doubt we'll see if that's because Britain will prosper musically, apparently, quoting their Prime Minister, but I'm a bit of a loss myself. So I've always tried to explain things that I look forward to the day that we have the you know, and like in Star Trek, you know, the United Federated Planets, everybody's all together in one. Come on, yeah. That necessarily could buy out, but it's you know, all under one flag. Do we decide whether you want a pretty printer yet or not? Well yes, I definitely do, but I'm not gonna get on those, yes. My next year, don't have the space at the moment. There's no staff there, shows on three printers. Yeah, I like those. Enjoy them. Do a more? Well, I tried to convince in the lug past guys to just kind of do a before show talk for a while as to why we enjoy using three printers, but I didn't take a bummer. Okay, I definitely would find some use for it all right, what's um, and that the one, the one that was recommended, can't remember which one seems affordable and doable. Enter three. Yeah, they're under three, but I guess I'm still in a project trying to clear out this back room because we're gonna renovate it and that's just taken forever. Oh yeah, I want to start putting other stuff in while we're doing this. I understand, but it is extremely fun hobby. Beyond vacation, it's just, it's one of those hobbies where I feel like when it's not being used, I almost feel sad like I have to figure out something for it to do. Yeah, I also got all sorts of wonderful filament for Christmas, so I got all of the crazy ones. One that one looks like wood, glowing the dark, one that looks silver, a golden brass, one that looks a little gold, and now I got to figure out cool things to do with all this stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What a good. Just doing some work here while I'm in between. What if you got an under? No, I've been in that ET4. Did you do a show on that? I did not. I'm shocked, I'm afraid. Again, my plan was to try to convince other, I see I'm not good at doing shows by myself just sitting in a room, talking about to myself. I work better when I can talk to somebody else, so I try to convince the other people on the one cast to just do like I talk about, but 3D printing. Yeah, good. If you remember in the past, most of my shows, I convinced Kevin to come along with me, so. So Kevin on earlier, and she's not talking to me. Yeah, I think he's just down there to have this dream going. No, he's up to the z-stream, but he's got the other, I think he's just down there. I've been mutant and everything. I must have annoyed him or something, still any explanation. Rex's, Rex's, where would I find a link to Rex's? Yes, Kevin, we're seeing the chat. Keep the ET4 updated, lol. Kevin, you don't annoy me. I'm just not trying hard enough, Kevin. Why is he listening? I love taking part. I don't understand. I'm supposed to be working here. Okay, microservices, yes. I bet you're missing that long ride into work, though. Surprisingly enough, yeah, it's affected my podcast listening a lot. Yep. I mean, don't get me wrong, like four days a week, three hours in the train is not pleasant, but I also know, as I have zero time for myself from my own stuff, so I come out here in the morning. You're at work. You go in and you're immediately into pop-a-mode, so there's no gap at all. And then you come back to the same place if you want to watch a video or something, it's back to here. So I'm getting a bit sick of being out here. I got you. Sometimes I take the, yeah, I just know the videos I'm going to watch from the phone and just go out to the room. All of everybody sitting on the couch is next to each other, just everybody watching their own videos. Yeah, I think there's anything wrong with that. Yeah, that's fine. Can you not listen to the stuff while you work? No. Yeah, okay. Hi, hello. Kind of a yikes over here. I can't give it to work, I can give it to you, either. What, lying to you using? Uh, mumple. Just, uh, raise her. Yeah, seems okay. Well, how are you installing it? Future, uh, I'm on this app. Is it to this app? No, uh, we try that actually, I'll do it. I don't know if you've got it. It's clear that there's a nice view to connect to the mumple. Yeah, uh, somebody had in the itopad. That version 133 was being rejected on Linux, but not on Windows. Strange. Really? Always. Yeah, I find it amazing that these sorts, you know, renewal things all seem to happen on the first January blah, blah, blah. It seems most stupid time to do it. You know, do it on Wednesday in the middle of the day in February when people are available to deal with the issue, not on New Year's Eve, right? Just because round numbers, right? The Romans had it down. First of April, 12 o'clock. That was the time that the New Year switched. Don't get me started about the 26-hour time zones. Which actually makes sense. Okay, fine. Or time zones period? Yeah. Well, yeah. It's, it's fine. I mean, summertime, time zones. I can see a reason for it. I mean, we have epoch, so fine. And we have UTC, so fine. Um, if people all use ISO 861, so the correct year format. And I don't, this has been bugging me all year. Thankfully, there's just give us some background. ISO 861 is the date format where the year is first, then the month, then the day, then the hours, then the minutes, then the seconds. And that is the only saying human readable time format because when you sort it, it sorts correctly. It's very, very simple. And it means that you don't need to just no disambiguity. If you switch from 200 kilometers away from here, they use month day. And then here they use day month. And in the US they use month day. So it's all that's a bit strange. That tears all that up. And it's amazing. There's been a trend on applications on Linux to rely entirely on the local based on your computer. And Firefox has, uh, Thunderbird has had this issue where it only relies on the local's for a date and time information. So there is no option. If you happen to be located in, if you're, if you're happened to be located in the Netherlands like I am and want my dates sorted by year month, whatever, according to this decision that Linux has taken, um, you don't have the option. You're, you are forced to have your dates and times, your males, your calendar, everything sorted by month by day, month, year. So then when you look at your calendar, you've got all these numbers out of out of date. It is absolutely frustrating. And there's been a bug that's been following for the last two years trying to convince them that this is actually an issue. And it's now an issue as well with on cloud our next cloud that I get AM and PM when in my calendar and there's no way to change it. Because this is the local you've chosen. So therefore everybody in that local, this is the preference they have. Do you understand what I'm on or not? Oh yeah, I don't, I don't necessarily run into that issue, but I definitely understand what you're on about. Yeah, okay, but the last minute you're living in the US and the vast majority of the US follow the same times old stuff so that you're more than happy dealing with that. Now say you move to the Netherlands, right? On a, on a vacation and you get stuck here because of COVID. Now you're in lockdown in the hotel, right? And suddenly the laptop that you've been assigned from the hotel because you've got your laptop thinks that you now have the ability to speak Dutch. So every web page that you go to suddenly starts displaying Dutch to you. This is a big issue with going to Google. If you go to Google from the Netherlands, you are assumed to be able to speak Dutch and there is no way on their web pages to be able to change that. That's thing number one. Thing number two, all your dates will turn from Wednesday, one to two Wednesday, it'll be Amanda. Since the Bones, the Donde de As an example, and your date formats will also change and you have no way of changing it back without saying that you're in the US. But now you need to fill out your tax forms. So now you don't have the Euro symbol and you don't have the your dots on the comma as decimal point separators. So floating point separators here is a comma, whereas in the states it's a full stop. So now I'm here. I can I can do all my stuff. But I'm forced in a compromise too. I don't have my I don't have the Euro what I want to be able to do is have the Euro symbol as the currency sign. Okay fine. So I'll select Ireland as my time zone. But then I'll select Ireland as my local. So they've got the Euro grant or good so far. Okay. But they don't use the ISO86 one date format. Okay. So I can switch to a Scandinavian country where they use that date format. Okay. That's great. But they don't use the Euro or I can switch to Denmark. So if I switch my Denmark English, then that'll that'll sort of bad then I have at least English. But then that could drop because there's no official Denmark English. So now all of a sudden everything turns into Danish because there's no option to go into your preferences. So file preferences, set your date format, use the local or specify it using the date, you know, percent why, why, why, dash, mm, that you get. So unless you're dealing with it, I can understand that people don't think about it. But when you stand back and think about it, if you base it on just the local, you're making the assumption that every person in that geographical region all agree on what the date format should be regardless of their historical background preferences. You basically are removing their preferences from by doing so. Okay. I'll stop talking about that. No, no, that's fine. I mean, that's absolutely right. There's no reason why there shouldn't be some way to fix that. Not changing the list. I'll add some links to the show notes. You know what I mean? I'll be right back. No worries. Don't get silence. We'll do it's thing. Wait, is that clear at the same silence that I'm likely? Yeah. If you go into audacity, and then let me see, tools or something, truncated silence, then you can specify if there's a space of gaps in between the audio, then it'll basically narrow them down and you can specify how much like half a second or something. So it's a good idea if you're editing audio to first record some silence. So if there's any background homes or something like that, and then do noise removal. And noise removal is too part. You select an area of silence of the background home and get noise profile for that and then select the entire track, then do noise removal again, only this time apply, and then that will have removed that both from the entire track. And then you've got a clean audio, and from there you can go tools and truncate silence and it'll truncate all this down. So that makes this a lot cleaner. Yeah, definitely get rid of it in the awkward puzzles in this. That's part of the cracker of the new year's show. So where are you from? I'm in America, boring, Florida, Florida. You're all barely, I guess. Yeah, I'm in early rising. Very good, very good. How did you hear about this event through the website? I don't remember where I found hacker published a video, but like a month there's so ago, and I've been enjoying the show. I can use how to song for a while. Wait a minute. So if you thought of recording a show, I thought of it, but I'm kind of scared it's going to go horribly wrong somehow. No, too late. You're already done. You've already done. You've already done your first show. Everybody's introduced, you know, it's all upheld from now. Upheld? Downhill? Downhill sounds negative. It gets easier from now on. Yeah, downhill's probably easier to do, but uphill's the phrase, I believe. I just close to tickets. Okay, so anybody from my work is listening. So I am working. I'm all thanks for asking. That's the bunny. That's very quiet now. This year are in between the holidays, lots of people are all fun, so I'm striving for inbox zero. Would be lovely. I need shows you particularly like this so far. I mean, I can stand out to me. I'm not very good at it. It makes back to Greek tripu-told. Yeah. There's definitely been some interesting ones, but I just, when I'm asked to come up with something on the top of my head. Yeah. I couldn't pick a favor, just my standard response. That's part of the theme of politely saying something rude. No, actually. I found the hard to compare shows because there's so random and sometimes I think really, I'm never ever going to find the show useful. And then a few weeks later, you're desperately searching for the exact thing that was said in that show. And then, yes, thank you. Thank you very much for that niche thing that's unfortunately has just happened to me. Yeah, I definitely got some knowledge and I'm very expected to know. Yep. Okay. The bug still remains open, so I will carry on. I'm not going to be able to close that one. So you could do an introduction show. Hi, my name is Alive and Blah. I got into tech as a result of Blah. I'd ask it that now, but that would be wasting a show. And as you know, the new year show doesn't count to your show, Tally. So. Yeah. Wait, hold on. I use middle mouse button as my gosh, you talk. And every time I hit it, they pay something and I have to watch out. Yep. It's so convenient, but so awful at the same time. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Exactly. It just pasted like three lines into the shinnets. Can I remove this? Your passwords. Yeah. Password one, two, three. I'm going to grab another coffee because that's what I need to get through today. I think we need to let him. Like coffee and meat monster. Actually, it's already lunch time. Well, great. Good morning. Who are you? That was my five year old. Aha. Sounds good more tired. Oh, he's grumpy. He has a video that's not working. We'll go fix that. It's something that should be free. I gave them the fire tablets with the the the kid mode set up. And whatever video for some reason, there's like one video that just doesn't want to play. So if it was an issue that I could fix, trust me, I would. And he's getting angry at me like I could fix it. Yeah, super dead. Right. I have returned. So this network? Yeah. I didn't even think to try, you know, doing it the way normal people do it. So I tested it out because Kevin had noticed the issue a while ago. And I tested out yesterday in a VM. And I went through their store for getting that their store would automatically put it in as a snap. So, but apparently the snap works and the one from the repo in a bone too, as you can see, they won't have any problems. I can deal with the snap. Are you all going to probably fix before the show is ever is just going to have to be something that is. I believe it's just something to do with the murmur server itself. It's just a problem that is unfortunate indeed. We debated using a different server, but my reasoning for not pushing for another server is because this one is basically the HPR server. It's the one that's well known. So there's a lot of people who are returning to here who are going to have like this server already set up and automatically go towards this server. So I didn't want to have any confusion by those people that has to what's going on or how come this thing because this would still be set up and then they'd be going to this room and then there'd be nobody there and get all confused and I don't know. I just to less less in confusion. Yeah, do you have a kids in the background there? What is that? Yep. Yeah, I suppose it wouldn't be a very good idea to change the server in the middle of the show either. Oh no, not going down the middle. Just on the mumbles server there. I'm thinking that yeah you're right at this point it's too late to change people to another server but the HPR server looking at all the people, all the rooms, a lot of these shows don't exist anymore. So the only people using the server is the HPR and that's an expense that we don't need. I don't mind paying for it if other people were using the server but I think the majority of people have moved over to Delwin's server and yeah I would prefer to give him the money that I'm giving to this provider in order to maintain the server there for everybody. That's something to do during the year I guess. Any use of installations? So the Delwin's server I believe is just us and well the Linux loadcast and tilt I believe and this server has been around for a very long time. Yeah, but they don't do maintenance on it so that's an issue. Yeah and looking at the podcast and I did something like six or seven of the podcast let me just grab it one second. So the Boston Browns ledger the cast, Null Tech Show, Null Craft, Rev Unity, can't find anything about those on the internet and we have the techie geek do many of geeks with guns, Linux basic Linux expert, open source musicians, robberers and scanner drum all seem to have padfitted, Natalie use podnotes who have already said they don't use the server, mint cast who say they have their own server I think definitely go back to me and suddenly morning Linux review which they have their own server. I don't think they use the server other and on certain studio have moved off to their own server. So essentially I've been paying for this for no reason. The my understanding the mint cast guys use the server as a backup one when they're own when there's a working which I don't know how many how often that's happened. There's a possibility that's in the mint cast guys might come on here later so we can ask them in there here. Now I wonder for the frequency that this is used I mean it's mostly what the monthly rundown show that this is used right and yes wonder how difficult it would be for someone to spin up their own version of it for the two times it's being used. Yeah no Dublin is already offered to to host our room on his server so okay yeah so that would be cool but yeah they keep in this server just because people have it in their in their mobile client it would be confusing if this server existed but if the server's didn't exist then the people who wanted to join will go all the server just and exist I'll go to Hacker Public Radio find out what the new server is and then go there. I don't fair enough. Kind of a shame that the show geeked with guns is in existing work that sounds like an interesting idea. Try to remember who else was a part of Hector. I think it's just about dawning on me that it's going to be 2021 in 18 hours. I don't know if I can believe that one. Yeah this year flew by even with all its craziness. I mean that's the surprising part I thought it was going to take like 10 years this year still expecting to wake up and see it's March 15th or something. February 2nd it's all been in dream. Yeah. What are people's feelings about the vaccine and which one? I don't know much about the different vaccines but I mean I'd probably get one. I guess there's some risks involved considering how fast I rush it out but I just want this hoping to be over with and I want to slowly get the vaccine and just stop dealing with this whole thing. Well from my understanding I don't think it's ever going to be like fully away. I think the vaccines are going to be something that's it's almost like the flu vaccine something that you're probably going to have to get every year. Yeah but I want to hope because I guess there was the meaty virus already. If that's a thing I don't know. I only heard whispering about it. The what? Apparently it mutated in England or something but I don't know if that's true or not. Oh yes yeah. I heard it's something that it mutated in. I didn't read it the article fully but I saw some of that mutated in Africa. I just don't know whether that was the exact the the same strand that was in the UK or it was a different one. Different. Oh fantastic. Yeah it mutates all the time. It's just England and the UK and South Africa monitor for that sort of thing and they actually got harshly penalized for the fact that they're doing the sign following the scientific process better than all the countries. But yeah they're penalized by who? By the fact that they got shut down and locked out all the new strand of virus. Let's shut down the country. Got it. Yeah. So if you got a new strand of virus are you going to basically tell anybody or you're just going to go oh gosh forgot about that two weeks later your country is going to have it anyway because this people moving hand over and back. However I will put in the show notes a very good link to a article that's a friend of McCollig and work rules about reading the source code of the virus. Let me paste that in. I was a little apprehensive about the the vaccine at first but I mean it's I think enough people have gotten it where it seems to be okay. I was concerned about the fact that they seemed to have rushed it out but like I said enough enough people have gotten it have taken the vaccine and seemed to be fine and there are a lot of people that I even know personally that they've gotten it and seemed to be fine. So I'm definitely feeling a lot I feel better about it. I think you need to be careful about saying that they're rushed it out because yes they improved the process but they followed the same the same procedures that they would normally accept that they released their findings on a continual ongoing basis rather than waiting for the end of the trials and submitting it before moving on to the next phase of the trials which was a lot more expensive to do but in fairness to the US government I think they funded a lot of that research so that vaccine trials could continue like that and the fact that they were producing is prior to the trials being improved meant that you know if the trials have failed you have this complete waste of all these vaccines that have already been produced but as it turned out you know it was just kind of messing with the gun chart so rather than rushing it out if you get what I mean. Yeah I definitely don't want to be responsible for anyone thinking they shouldn't get the vaccine either and I'm sure if they went through the testing it's probably not going to be a big deal. It's a I just put a link in there in the show notes to reverse engineering the source code of the bioNTech Pfizer SARS-CoV-2 vaccine and the guy writes us from the point of view of a 90% or a computer scientist so like we'll have metadata and bits and bytes and you know let's look at the source code what's the first bit do what's the second bit do what does this do what's that do and then where is the difference is between the virus and the vaccine and why they put those things in place. It's a very very good read. Yeah heavy read no less but a very good read. Yeah I'm just going to do here looks quite interesting I have to read this whole thing here. I would put it into reader mode and have it text to speech here is the best way to do it. Yeah let's have a think of it since when it texts the speech for you. How do you know anybody who's gotten the the vaccine? I don't because our wonderful health service were less than efficient in rolling it out were the last country in Europe to start vaccination. Oh boy and the second last was Ireland but they had the yeah yeah I won't go into it. Use article saying it's not a race actually actually it is the race it is the more soon you get out the less people who will die that's that's the sort of race it is. Right. This new year show will be the COVID show. Yeah well it's kind of a kind of a big topic you know it's hard to avoid it. Yeah we're not going to go very long in this show I don't think without this cousin covid. Right. Fam here long and I've also had a time to see a home that goes. Yeah we have friends who work in the health care industry who have gotten the vaccine and my wife works front desk at a pediatric office and they're offering the vaccine actually they told her that this Saturday she could head down to one of the hospitals and get her vaccine. I'm kind of waiting I work in a grocery store that has a pharmacy that does like the flu vaccine apparently they're supposed to be getting it at some point. I probably wait until they get it there and probably get it then but I guess that I was I felt like I was a little apprehensive at first but you know it seems to be fine so I'm definitely feel like it's best to get it and you know try to like you said kind of get things back to normal as best as we can and in a million way that that's going to happen is through this vaccine or a vaccine. Yeah I agree I think it I think for me as soon as it becomes available to me I want to get it. Same here. I want to do if the first person to get the publicly available like you know it's been rolled out vaccine knows they were the first. Probably. Yeah I was into all the papers and everything. I like all the political figures who get their their vaccine live on television. I want to see that but they're scared of the needle. Yeah well we have one guy here I'm not sure who it was who they they put like the needle in but they didn't push the plunger in. Yeah I think though I saw those on the conspiracy theory sites and the BBC said it was as a result of that they had given the shot but it happened so fast that they had to go back and do it again. And classic television. Right? Just double vaccine up and be extra stone. Well technically the vaccine you're supposed to get it from my understanding it's it's you get the vaccine and then the new back to wait 30 days and get the second shot. Yep. Please spread it up. Yeah. I wait for this. Just fix it. More faster. Boom boom done. I'm out of here. I'm the new step back for a slightly skeetrip. Yeah I'm reading here on cdc.gov. You have to get two doses. One three to four weeks after the first. Yeah I think I feel like I'm waiting at is the so the Pfizer one has to be stored at like negative 20. For something it has to be stored very very cold and because it has to be stored at very very cold there's a lot of places that where they don't have the facilities to handle that so that the second one the modern Moderna is doesn't have a stored super cold and so that one's going to be available to more places because they don't have to have a facility to hold something that cold and like I said the pharmacy at the store that work is going to be getting those and once those get rolled out more than the public I should be available to me and I'll probably get it. And that was an explanation that Dr. Kovumont had that was more suited to large inoculation events where people could drive by and not more suited to nursing homes that are currently getting blasted. However the argument counter argument might be perhaps that if you brought it to a strategic location and then organize that it could be taken the doses for the day it could be taken out and immediately dispatched by a team of 10 doctors then you only needed to yeah okay one point to that one good to that. Organisation could have fixed us I believe is there what I'm trying to say. You're not wrong. Yeah. Was anybody working in any interesting projects this year? How did I? I don't swear would you say if it knew you? Has anybody worked in any interesting projects this year? Oh it's not only a project in the sense that you probably meant but you know the open street map I've kind of been getting into that whole thing. Oh that is a project. Yeah it's just a very big project that the whole world is part of. That's a show right there. That's true. Are you using open street map belong? Yeah I use it to navigate OSM and similar all the time. I should definitely use it more but I mean navigation it's a lot easier just to bring up Google Maps real quick. Sometimes I have to Google Maps to give directions to other people. You can't really share OSM and like you can't share that to another person as far as I'm aware you can't share the location. I must say also use open street map. Does anyone think they're going to stay stay until tonight? New yours? All right you're all going to leave. Oh I'll definitely you can't make it that long. Yeah I'm sorry but there'll be loads of people to probably extend as well tomorrow due to the fact that it's Saturday so we can. Yeah it's Friday right? I'm going to miss it today I'd have a yeah sorry what I mean to say is that it's a free day bank holiday below. Ah most places. Yeah and they're no longer on to Saturday because that is the weekend. How long these shows usually last? They can go on for days yeah. It depends on the time. Sometimes they're fast sometimes they're at events who's on. It's all a little Dave. Well how are you? Oh it's got to be exact something can you understand? That I wouldn't work here. I'm as bad as English as they come as far as their Scotland's concerned. There you go. Enjoy your last few hours of European Union. It's utterly utterly insane it really is. It's like somebody saw in their own leg off and then saying they're your goal got rid of that thing they don't want that anymore. Oh no I can't walk crash and it's gonna it's gonna be a nightmare here I think. Absolutely a nightmare. Oh I doubt that too. It'll be perfect. It'll be a plus for micely to cause an order. So who gains from this? This is the question. Who is who is making money out of this and well I know where I point my no no no I don't I don't I think my finger's going to point in the direction that I won't I won't I so just now. Yeah it's such a silly don't get to be as old as me with that being a cynic probably. Yeah I've learned a lot this year actually this year has been a revelation I've lived my life in a sort of little bubble in some respects. It's not really being that aware of what's going on. Certainly not very aware about politics. I think the lockdown has helped me to go and read more and also avoid the dreadful rubbish that is out there on the internet and in newspapers and on tele and and radio. So that may I may be describing some form of conspiracy. There is maybe I don't know but it seems to me that I've got a clear review of the way the world works, the way that humans manage stuff and to usually to to amass pile of money themselves and the way that most things seem to be driven. Yeah it is a little bit depressing. Very much so yeah. Yeah. So um did I was listening to you on the stream as I was getting things sorted out here and you were talking about the back scenes and stuff. Yep. One of your conspiracy theories and I'll do it here. Just a little bit back to please. What a nice example. My son is a girlfriend I guess is the I'm not sure what they're PC version is these days but um she is a doctor and so she got the Pfizer vaccine last week I think so yeah we're good for it with her. It's uh some people have had pain for arm as a consequence but she and another number of colleagues did so I was on the way. So she's yeah she's she obviously there's another one coming in for weeks or something but yeah it's looking good for her she's concerned. Yep. They're talking here about given special rights to be more freedom to people who got the vaccine and I'm thinking that while I'm paper that sounds reasonable but they can still be carrying the virus they can still be okay if I know. No it's just true it's true these things are not really known yet but the chances are that it's not uh what they call a sterilising immunity where if the effective agent attacks you your immune system just zapped it and destroys it totally it's more likely to be the one where you get it but you you don't get the disease it it the disease is blocked from you but you could still be a carrier just like typhoid Mary. Yeah it's likely so it's a good season about her. Oh yeah she had a really bad time so yeah it could be a world full of typhoid Mary is uh with the vaccine you know. Did she guess uh imprisoned basically? Yeah. Forever. Yes yes she got out always let out and then she went and back to and it was under the understanding she wouldn't be a cook anymore but she that was what she knew so she went back and did as a as a cooking and a household and gave them all typhoid and stuff. It's a very sad story I've not it's a wild sense of read it but it's fascinating. Oh dear dear dear. So we're getting the we're likely to get the AstraZeneca Oxford vaccine that's just been approved by the the chip. It works fine it's grown it's almost as good as the other vaccine. It's just a different one I think there's there's maybe less known about it it's one that's in a it's in a it's a virus it's no it's a genetically modified chimp virus. So the chimp virus is a denovirus hope it pronounce a denovirus which gives chips a thing a bit like a cold and it people in general don't have any immunity towards it so they don't there wouldn't be any sort of allergic reaction in the vast majority of cases and it has it's DNA. So DNA what ever anyways genetic materials been modified to generate the spike protein of the of the coronavirus and that's the thing that you're immune system to you're excited about because that's the thing that will kill the the the virus is the SARS-CoV-2 virus if you get it so yeah it's pretty it's amazing stuff it's pretty amazing stuff it's all genetic engineering the other one the Pfizer and the Moderna they're both MR and A viruses they make messenger RNA which will generate spike protein and they just stick it in a lipid envelope or something and inject that into and it latches onto your cells and makes a make spike protein just again amazing so they can change it relatively quickly if there's any need. Yes sounds pretty good did you read that article I sent you on the source clothing I started looking at it it's really good it's pretty good it's pretty good it's it's talking a lot a lot about biology and genetics and stuff so it's it's fairly tough going but it's definitely very interesting that is it's sat in a tab on one of my browsers so we'll get ready do you read a more did all in Firefox now is this really if you go all old or Romeo and then you can press play and it'll do a text to speech it helps with that yeah yeah it's I I've not tried it obviously but I don't know I find text to speech things throw me a bit because they pronounce things wrong and that really bothers me because this things like polyadenolation and stuff in there and I bet you know his speech synthesizer is going to get that right anyway that's why I can't listen to Librebox by the way because there's some brilliant readers on Librebox but there's some people have the most devastating accent and they don't the way they read stuff is completely wrong to mine and I'm just I just have the sort of brains it's wrong now I can't listen that I'm off by it's just really stupid when I say it but it is it is a fact yes this is a I'm familiar with the side of your personality and it's wrong on internet and it's can oh an organizer yeah usually yes yeah although I've used that to my advantage I will say oh dear speaking of y'all naming each other it's I should put a name to y'all's voices which did I call you though your lordship has find me make a be in glaze yeah yeah so I've actually put my name in my comment on the on mumble I don't know if that helps anybody but yeah I'm Dave Morris of this apparently I don't underscore a father I'm sure I'll forget but I'll try and remember I just find handles to confusing so the underscore is the closest thing I get to be in the lead I yeah I was doing sort of pre-intinent things quite early on in fact I was starting to put together a show about doing about being involved in the UK academic dormitories just it's not going to say that it's vast amounts of stuff but during that process I attended to join things and write things using my full name and so although it's mostly vanished now there was a time when my name was in lots and lots of forums and that's sort of subsove never really bothered too much about whether it's out there I might regret that later I tried to compartmentalize I should say yes it's a great word my username's so you can't you know find my other existences online no that's that's good that's the way my children work there much more sophisticated about this than I am yeah do I see Mr. X there in the in the on the channel do you see does he have a soldering iron? there he is I'm gonna hang it some the other I just I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry we're talking to him like Haggard's pizza isn't that cheap and tested there's such a thing as Haggard's pizza oh you put the giant one of them I don't have to be able to find that anywhere around here no I thought that's where you were that I was the we yeah companies just above this little and make some sort of a local store with a co-op sometimes but yeah just on ice beach every night again it's very nice indeed yeah I had I think was Papa John's they had a pizza called a hamburger pizza that was an interesting experience it tastes like a hamburger but it was just all off because it was the texture was not right it's amazing what you can put I think so I guess really not sure how long I'll be on here for the Mrs X's out they're walking the dog and it's I'm guessing like it's doing here it's it's kind of slow and quicker but what's it like are you with him? yeah yeah it's snowing here too it's it's not that heavy just at this precise moment but forecast is snow till early afternoon and then possibly it's going to turn to rain she's never never of the best because it then turns to ice mostly it's in the 70s all day here where are you at? Florida it's not pretty much always in the 70s except for apparently on Christmas it was in the 30s yeah it got real cold but not cold enough for a weight Christmas always thought I was one long country I actually looked like the cold at all so yeah I've been to Vegas once so 70s 21 degrees for the rest was yeah I've been to that part of the world too let's take us in the around that area the Grand Canyon and the the heat is so dry that it doesn't feel as hot as what I just covered to whereas I imagine that Florida it's very very humid and I hate humid heat that really really kills me yeah that's the thing is the just here sweat that comes out of you when it's humid out is ridiculous yeah I wouldn't like that very much it wasn't so salty I could probably donate the water to Africa yeah I spend a bit of time in Singapore which is tropical not far from the equator and is very humid bit on the highest humidities over in Canter and that lots of air conditioning because for as soon as you step out into the real world that humid heat just knocks you flat well it doesn't mean anyway it takes I think it probably have to be there from months before you start to adapt to it yeah well I was in we weren't in Vegas we were we were coming up at the hotel and one way of conditioning the bus stop and when we stepped out it was all like car courts or something like that it was a roof I said this is not ours can't these bus fumes it's hot air in your face so I think you know and then I turned the corner and it continued as I was in the open I thought wait man that's nothing to do with buses at all it's just what it's like I just couldn't believe it yeah yeah yeah we drove I turned my kids the I say kid the nearly 30 and nearly 26 but you know I mean we went there a few years ago around the area I went and drove through Arizona a bit as well and I don't know I imagine it would grind you down that sort of very low humidity it's supposedly not very good for the inside of your nose and stuff people say that you're more prone to infection they understood that right through the fact that you're so dry they said you're breathing root is you know you're inside of your nose and your throat and so I'll get so dry in that area drink last quantity of water in my my experience but yeah I don't know it's it's not a place I particularly want to live but more Southern in Florida or Singapore yeah I've personally always calls yeah I see that there's been cases where I've been on a cycle path and I've seen people wondering about it with the T-shirts and stuff on and I'm sweet pour them off and I've got jumpers and shots and I'm still maybe just come to be one-ish sort of thing I'm just seems far closer than anybody else and I've seen me in holiday as that was a picture of me in an away from there and they were something of alkene pictures taken and to remember that subsequently I can see my face is as completely dry and how I was just pulling with sweat so I die and I'm just a cold person naturally so I can't understand where people drive when I windows they're looking at this seems a part of madness yeah I definitely agree I'm always wearing the same thing sweatpants in my mouth good city yeah I think I'm going to be I definitely did a cool work doesn't it be so I just seem to have definitely bonded on it I'm going to pack the level but oh hi this this is a lot of the place I've actually been moving north of my life so I'm probably going to stay around but I tell you there was once I went to a conference from Edinburgh in the south of England kind of over the exit to university maybe and the difference in temperature was amazing to me anyway seemed really hot and clammy there and it was it was pretty much the same weather it was in the summer yeah but maybe spring or something but it was was surprised how many degrees of temperature difference they were between one end of the UK and the other which is not a very big place for 600 miles 700 miles maybe between the two dinner yeah she's funny she'd say that because you know my wife's brother the my brother bought food down so and then and then you know the death I've forgotten what it's like up here you know it's and my brother and walking what one pay and their Christmas is a good thing it was and we met in Princess Jeep T-shirt on you know and how you mad you know and he tested through the heat he always cared to feel about the hot side which must be really nice but you know obviously there didn't to be such a point and I think it's had the snow as well but it overcame his natural and he painted his blood but I really know and all of a sudden he started shoveling the shake and I have all you know if you walk around Princess Jeep and I'd like Christmas but the piece at one that was going to happen yeah yeah and I was a student in Manchester there was one of the lecturers there who was notorious in the fact that he seemed to run at a higher temperature than everybody else his thermostat was just set wrong because he would write his cycle to him from the university and he would you just wear a sort of light shirt in I guess it was the days when people wear you know white shirt with rolled up sleeves or something but he wore that throughout the year you know I think he had some rain rain wear but he if he didn't he wasn't bothered by the cold that was the thing everybody remarked on this how is that possible for a human to do that but he he was just constantly hot yeah I'm personally cold I think I think my brother was about that he's constantly hot as well he'd think I don't know hopefully I'll catch your again and it done that's that's sorry it's okay that I think the settings are see how you turn that off um yes I the brother and I was always always do hot but I don't know what is well there's a blood circulation my hands particularly get quite cold as well if it seems can it really you know I wish I wish I was the other way down the page yeah you need to need to move somewhere hot I'm always cold but I feel like I was with heart I would have an issue with hydration because I have a massive day at co-condiction hmm yes yes I'll probably kill you if eventually you're not so yeah I've heard about the kidney stones that's what I'm worried about that's not a nice thought no no it's it's got some funny stuff in it coat is something called sodium benzoyd that's uh that is pretty nasty oh and I was getting my car fixed before Christmas and it's a fuel injected diesel and I was saying and I've had a problem with it um you're so back with one of the fuel injectors failed really expensive fix but it um I was saying to the guy who is doing the work this time about it and he said yeah those cost a little money because getting the fuel injector out of the engine is really difficult because it sort of seals itself in there because the fuel blows past it as it's failing and it sort of makes a carbon if carbon type sticky stuff around it that that glues it in and he said in the garage trade the thing we use to free that off is yeah I'm supposed to diet coke you put diet coke into that part of the engine and it melts but the glue that's been created by your engine and and that comes the fuel injector so there you go I'll do a card what am I doing to myself slowly dissolving okay all those insides are overrated anyways both be holo I absolutely try not to share with these sorts of things but not quite so keen these days but there you go probably drink it up and else it's bad for me at the same time instead I mean for that coffee lots of coffee that's I'm just not sure that's good good bye no I got some bye I said I was gonna like half it oh I got I said I was gonna get a coffee earlier and put the monster just probably badly bad well when we were in the states I'd been listening to a podcast then this and the guy was always talking about how you is drinking a mountain dew iron hits on his travel then you can get mountain dew here I've never really noticed it but there's lots of lots of available in the states so we bought some I think we were on the road to get an addicted to that stuff actually you know I'll really enjoyed it but when back here in the UK it's really really hard to get and a bit more expensive I think so we didn't end up addicted but it's amazing how easily you could get that way I think yeah I had a mountain dew once and I didn't like it I haven't had one since yeah probably depends on the on the context and on who you are or whatever what it is you like we we quite enjoyed it I think we were buying the diet one but just seemed because it was the novelty of it I was gonna say maybe I'll try one but I think that's a bad idea keep keep clear of these things if you can yeah I used to it I'm sure I'm younger but I don't more like juice or physical whatever you know but I kept it I mean and then I sort of then I just got me in drinking tea and I don't loads and loads and then we get to that each who has people come into bits of problems so when compact off the piano and I'm drinking a hot water and they believe I'm not I'm really enjoying that if you can see that it's okay but I also did that don't care if you can juice that I mean that it's kind of a normal matia, I'm sure that in my childhood I've done with the juice everything juice everything you know can mix water with a lot of the concentrated you know like I'd be know whatever's in the tin and it's probably there's less depending on the presentation you put it there's less sugar in that maybe then there would be in the cooler but yeah so I'm not I've never been a coffee drinker that's the one thing I've never been a teacup is all about anyway the yeah I've also drunk hot water there's times when maybe you just want to drink but you don't and it's usually if it's in the cold weather and stuff and you don't want to take on board the tannins and all the other stuff because it's late at night perhaps yeah I've certainly done that and it's quite it's quite palatable actually I know a few people who do that but yeah the diluting juices that you get in in this purple world they a lot of them are low sugar these days I think they're not a Scottish drive to reduce sugar in all these sorts of things at one point because I remember them warning in the supermarket you won't be able to buy this anymore because it's the ruling is that it should contain less than X amount of sugar so yeah yeah yeah it's something we we have are taken it the other thing that we tend to drink I say we put my kids visit a couple of times a week to eat with me and it's always there's always a collection of micro brewery or local brewery relay or tight beers and stuff so these these are not healthy but as long as it's only one or two a week I think it's okay yeah well um it was not the I think it's not you get it there's extra tax put on high sugar drinks it's not that you well effectively it can't get it because what happens if you've got two companies producing a similar drink then if one just dips below it then there's substantially cheaper so it then encourages all the other manufacturers to do to do likewise but it's not that it's a critically banned I think it's just that I could be wrong I think that's what I said because I'm really call it a sugar tax and but you're right and of course all the sets are my opinions probably good thing and the long period yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so I'm just you see that when I put a point on it was but oh well are you going to ask my age again some of my main going again cause I'm of the age where I have a tattooed diabetes often happens above certain age and stuff if you're not looking after yourself well enough I guess but one of the recommendations I got when I was diagnosed with that 10 years or so ago was to drink these diluting juices the ones with the low sugar so yeah I think medically they're seen as quite a quite desirable things they have to watch out for the sweeteners they put in because those can have rather unpleasant effects yeah yeah yeah we've also when I've gone I think I'm a dimensionist before the 80 maybe 80% their vegetarian though and it was more of my wife's choice you know I've rapidly enjoying it it's I don't I mean I thought in meals would be a quick blend a bit more to play but I guess depends if you know that the the blends of spaces that's like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah we did talk about this I think you and I when we were chatting one time and it's it's a thing that's quite popular in my household because my son and his girlfriend both vegetarian were daughters sort of semi vegetarian and I'm pretty easy going about to about that so yeah we we we have a lot of vegetarian meals in fact so in fact I'm feeding them tonight we're having rats or two of you which is already made and then put it into the whole meal flour buckwheat flour pancakes and then you you roll them up put them in the oven with a bit cheese on top and they're not vegan to the cheese but yeah that's pretty pretty nice um pretty nice meal of course I say that that I can just see Mrs X and good the companion by our side so I'll need to go but after seeing all that I noticed that there was some maybe three or four um this is the one the bunker top so I'm guessing we're not having a meat free meal today at some point with them I don't remember that it was a well health organization classifies a sausage is a damaging to your health as a cigarette so that's something to think about when I'm having my sausage tonight I speak your little yeah nice a little nice yeah yes we're actually never leave oh you know I just realized after all that talk I actually do have a bottle of what do you call unflavered silencer that I am drinking so I'm not completely unhealthy it's good it should have come up with that before saying I only drink that it cook but I guess we're past that now a tender drink roibos or red bush tea doesn't have any of the tendons and stuff yeah there was a time no that was a really popular drink around here Aleksandre McCall Smith the author who's an Edinburgh guy uh you know he's uh what's it called the lady who's the one so yeah yeah but swana um he was pushing and he wasn't pushing it but even meant it was mentioned a lot and his books were very very popular at the time it was a TV series and stuff that seemed to trigger something with the with the supermarkets because they're roibos too is quite common and certainly drunk it's nice it's pretty nice yeah there was a series TV series was very well done and I got the books and I must say he lost the plot a little bit become a bit of a cash cow which is a pity because I like the idea of solving a little mystery so yeah yeah yeah there were some of them that were really really great and I read all that were available at the time but then I sort of yeah it's one sort of an enthusiasm that you get bored with eventually I don't know whether that was me or him but uh I think he just got very luxury and starts started the boot like we're on the last at the using the boot now and really I just couldn't finish it because very pre-tree and yeah all I could see was that a Scottish guy pretending to be a Scottish guy lecturing me as opposed to a character and but so that's kind of I guess yeah yeah yeah well yes I don't need another Scottish guy lecturing me to do that's dreadful and McCall Smith has actually organized a thing in Edinburgh called the really terrible orchestra he's I think it was his idea and this bunch of musicians who are sort of in training some of them are quite quite advanced with their training they're pretty good in other words but the orchestra is called the really terrible orchestra and they've been a few shows they've been abroad in the past to give performances and they're really terrible I think it's a joke on the fact that there were a few people who had none of them of professional musicians they were all amateur musicians and some of them were were learning at the time so they would make a few few mistakes along the way so it was it I just just his humor I guess but my friend Tom who he I know you've been with me so I've fostered him he's a cellist in that orchestra I've been to to a few of their performance so they're actually pretty good they're not perfect but they're damn good but yeah I was hoping to meet the calls with it wasn't on duty that day yeah check them out they I think I have a website not sure how busy they are these days not much I would imagine I've been thinking I watched like almost all of Mr Robot how many of you watch that show anyway is because I know it's more popular in like techy communities I think I have the last season to go but there was there was three seasons right for four okay yeah I think I still have to just let you feel the last season to go I just wanted to know it's a really good show to me I don't know how much it fits and feel I'm afraid I'm one of these people who is a band and television totally and all of the the popular media so I can't it's a close book for some consent sorry we're more or less the same here and we're afraid yeah I know a lot of people who don't watch TV and stuff anymore it's just not this common to people who watch television I think it was some the heroes series because I like science fiction and heroes was a sort of sci-fi thing I think watching that whenever that was some number of years ago the the obviously as the series progressed there was obviously no plan whatsoever which is some ideas of the throne around and just randomly spewed out cleverly done and stuff good effects but no story it was it was a huge disappointment I mean then that's after coming through like twin peaks I watched all of twin peaks years and years ago and just you come it was one of those things you come out of and go why the hell did I just watch that such crap and you know it's that and I know American television may be worse but British television is pretty grim on that that front is also a reality TV is makes me want to vomit so so yeah I'm happy or away from it to be honest well here it's sorry but heroes seem to have like a plan for like that first season and then not much afterwards or if they did it like they they make a plan for that season but it's not like one grand scheme it's it was like they had said right we're going to have this thread and this thread and this thread and this thread we're not quite sure where they're going to go but they're going to be great and then they got to got so far and said alright we're bored now we can't be bothered to write the rest of it or somebody in management said no no you're you're spending too much or some some nonsense like that you know it wasn't if there was an overall structure I know people write books that way you know let them develop as they go but but you shouldn't be taking them to the public until they're finished that was my view but I think the way that TV model works is that you just get enough that you can put it out there and then hopefully you you get another chance to add some more to it so you know it's me and Dr who I don't know used to watch Dr who quite seriously when it came back again I saw the early ones because I'm now but we we were really excited we both enjoyed it a lot and then it also went into one of these now we're going to wheel in a new right and now and he doesn't believe in the stuff that the previous writer did so you know it just gets more and more ragged and silly and and I just haven't got the patience anymore reboots I hate reboots yeah I think the last because of the shows having new writers or because the shows are more funding that's because the franchise doesn't allow them legally to refer to the content of the previous owner blah blah blah so they have to reboot it I guess it's time to welcome to the new year for two footy footy footy I guess and somewhere in Russia so having you here somewhere in Russia don't know if we have a very strong Russian listening bass but under the Martial Islands also and some other places hopefully the new year really is happy yeah they would know by now okay I've never been a lot of shows where they seem to have a plan for like the first season like a really good solid plan for the first season and then everybody likes it and then they go okay now what the heck do we do for the rest of the season for the rest of the the episodes after that yeah yeah yeah oh no they've given us a go for another series what the hell do we do run around headless chicken that's true it's true it's really bad when you think about it though because there's they must have some really powerful people people with good ideas great with great sort of abilities to make stories because they have done it already and then they they they're just not getting proper support that they have to proper what they're doing to some bunch of a accountant or something you say now and I can't do that is that what is that what kills it because it's it's pretty pretty dreadful when you when you look back I mean what was it five fly that was a classic case of cold feet destroying the thing I think cause and yep well at least they got to make the movie and wrap up the series which is more than other shows well people of earth was actually a good series and then it just stopped on a cliffhanger I think that's why they're doing they get a contract for for one season and then they're writing big cliffhangers so that the people they people who watch this show start complaining if this show doesn't come back on and that plays a part into whether it gets falling or off the amount of social media balls about the show but which kind of sucks because you know the ratings aren't everything I think the last season of the show is either always really good or really bad and there's no in between I don't think I've ever seen a mediocre ending well that's not true yeah I have which was which show was that good ending you know I think the last great show that I've seen will be breaking bad and mister but I guess but at the immediate of the show I think the extra everyone gives it a bad rap but I don't think it was that bad but it definitely wasn't great for card had a mediocre ending so over now I hope so I stopped watching Star Trek franchise on day first intro to to discovery where the skipped over Yuri Gigar okay that destroys Jean Roddenbury's legacy right there it's weird with with Star Trek it just seems like it's a very you know each week is something completely different where we've kind of it seemed like in some shows we've kind of evolved into telling a grander story Star Trek was a commentary on pop culture and current events every every episode related to something that was happening then and it was either a satirical take or a serious take on what was going on at the time and there was relevant each episode something some emotional political or world event that was happening at the time and from the original series through later series they kept up with that for the most part until they got away from that and decided hey let's just tell stories yeah that's the point of science fiction is to take stuff out of yet to reflect on the current state of society which is what which is why I think that what you call it the Orville is a closer is more Star Trek than the current Star Trek love the Orville it is brilliant did the new episodes ever make it to Hulu because I know it was supposed to be taken off of Fox and then just put only on Hulu doesn't ABC on Hulu well technically Disney on Hulu which I think also though they only be a CRCDS Disney owns ABC okay then yes actually I think from what I remember Disney basically just owns a controlling factor of totally factor a controlling share of Hulu and they were going to slowly buy out the other companies also had a share in it if Disney owns Hulu and they also run their own service obviously Disney plus that is just I don't like that well Disney plus is something completely different Disney plus is kind of like they're where they have all of their animated stuff for kids it's their marvel and Star Wars stuff well Hulu is more of since they now own Fox it's a lot of their Fox stuff Fox affiliated stuff their ABC stuff their free form stuff stuff that isn't directly related to or you know something that isn't directly Disney yeah that makes sense I guess I just you know don't like having to pay for all the streaming services well I don't but the idea I upload it ideal I usually pirate my things except for Netflix and my music so the my issue with Disney is just the likes to segment all of their stuff apart from they also rate or blow control how it's child did like to rate or blow control their their content so for example beauty of the beast came out then like 95 then it's in 2005 you couldn't buy it yeah that's ridiculous I think I think the copyright law should be amended so that you lose your copyright if it's a piece of material is not available to the public as a affordable cost and I think copyright just needs to not last as long as it does yeah that too but in that in this case you would solve that Disney issue and it would also solve a lot of the issue where by media is getting the copyright still exists but the media for the thing that's been copyrighted has gone degradated there was a time that if you want to copyright your work that you needed to submit the physical artifact to three different locations in order to get your copyright so that when it goes out to copyright then society has a copy of the thing that we were giving you them monopoly on orphaned works so I'm talking about yeah speaking copyright my all time favorite copyrights grew up with charades or charades how's so by it's a I think it's a 1960 film with Audrey Hepburn and Carrie Grant and it's in the public domain because somebody screwed up trademark let's show one of the dead did that or not show one of the dead but don't of the dead had the same thing the forgot to put in the copyrights thing at the end and then it began into the public domain which is why zombies are so copyrightable are so there are so many zombie movies versus why there are so few Frankenstein movies Frankenstein's still under copyright I think you're young geez you're never going to see anything that was written in your life to come out of copyright ever as a thing that will never happen again yeah I'm sure that unless something radical happens soon copyright is a horrible thing and then to add to copyright all the entertainment things being used for marketing purposes so other things is also horrible yeah Star Wars for instance I've third almost just an advertisement waiting tap okay I got to drop off and do some work at all talk to you guys later I can where you all are well I'm in Edinburgh Scotland I'm in New Brunswick Canada snowing where you are no sir just have a sorry going oh yeah okay and I should have I feel about snow because I am from the Midwest I've just lived before to quite a while and I'm kind of over it but I kind of want to see it again we just had a few days of snow here and it's just stopped snowing actually it's it's great to see all the kids and so excited about it there's a number of hills around here and they will sled down them and stuff but yeah for people of my vintage we hate the cold and the prospect of falling over and breaking something not good so it's not just people you're going to people of all vintage just hate that my balance is not the best I definitely don't leave ice you've been listening to Hecker Public Radio at Hecker Public Radio.org we are a community podcast network that release the shows every week day Monday through Friday today show like all our shows was contributed by a HBO artist near like yourself if you ever thought of recording a podcast and click on our contributing to find out how easy it 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